Margaret Urlich - singer & songwriter

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A tribute to Margaret Urlich who performed with Peking Man and When The Cat's Away and as a solo artist, with multi-awards in NZ and Australia

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Margaret Urlich (1965-2022) was an acclaimed multi-award winning pop singer and songwriter in NZ and Australia. Auckland-born, she began her musical career in Peking Man in 1984 and also joined When The Cat's Away in 1986. Margaret then launched a solo career and based herself in Australia in 1988. She continued to cross the Tasman to reunite with When The Cat's Away, and joined other musicians touring NZ, Australia and Japan. 

Hit songs with Margaret singing co-lead, lead or back-up vocals include the 'Room that Echoes', 'Melting Pot', 'Escaping', 'Boy in the Moon', and 'The Horses'. Her song-writing skills began with Peking Man and led to four of her solo albums also including tracks that she had written and co-written. Margaret's interpretative dancing and fashion styles added a creative spectacle to live shows and music videos. 

In May 1999, Margaret released her fifth (and last) solo album 'Second Nature' which was a tribute album to Kiwi songwriters. Afterwards, Margaret and her sound engineer husband George Gorga raised their first of two children at their home in NSW's Southern Highlands. She also became a high school music teacher. Margaret continued to co-headline shows and perform solo, with one of her last performances held during December 2019 for a Christmas festive event in Sydney. 

Margaret was inducted into the New Zealand Music Hall of Fame in 2021. The following year, news media shared a family statement that Margaret had passed away peacefully on 22 August 2022 after a two-and-a-half-year battle with cancer. 

Margaret Urlich (24 Jan 1965 - 22 Aug 2022) became a household name as Peking Man's co-lead singer in 1984

She was invited by her brother Pat to sing backup on demos, which led to her singing co-lead & beginning song-writing

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Image: Anthems: New Zealand's Iconic Hits (excerpts)

Margaret also joined the five-member vocalist group When The Cat's Away in 1986

(Photo: When the Cat's Away (L-R) Annie Crummer, Debbie Harwood, Kim Willoughby, Dianne Swann & Margaret Urlich)

Anthems: New Zealand's Iconic Hits (excerpts)

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Image: Escaping

Margaret moved to Sydney in 1988 - had solo hits, toured with musicians, & became a mother & music teacher

She was inducted into New Zealand Music Hall of Fame in 2021, the year before she passed away from cancer on 22 Aug 2022

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1.  Growing up in BlocKhouse Bay, Auckland

Margaret Mary Urlich was born in Auckland on 24 January 1965. She was the daughter of Victor Marino Urlich (1926-1996) and Jean Anne Urlich, née Baker (1935-2015), and had six siblings - four sisters and two brothers. Her father was an art teacher at St. Peter's College whose new 'Vic Urlich Visual Art Facility' opened in June 2016. 

In an interview held in 1994 for the Pop History Oral History Project, Margaret discussed her childhood growing up in Blockhouse Bay and attending private Catholic schools. She also shared that her father's ancestry included Yugoslavian (her Croatian grandfather was a gum-digger in Ahipara and Kaitaia) and Māori (Te Popoto o Ngāpuhi ki Kaipara, Te Rarawa). Her ancestors on her mother's side had emigrated from England. 

During a later interview for the book "Kiwi Rock Chicks, Pop Stars & Trailblazers" (published 2010), Margaret recounted that her first experience of performing in front of an audience was at the local shopping centre with three of her older siblings when she was aged six. Later, in 1974, Margaret competed in a talent competition in Auckland, which was her first time on stage as a solo performer. Her family was given a record player by an aunt when she was aged about ten. Artists she had especially enjoyed listening to have included Joni Mitchell, Nina Simone, k.d. lang and Annie Lennox.

 Sources:  

Margaret (b. 24 Jan 1965) grew up in Blockhouse Bay with 4 sisters & 2 brothers, & went to Catholic schools

1st performing experience was at age 6 with 3 siblings at shopping centre. 1st solo act was talent competition in 1974.

Sweet taste of success / by Margaret Urlich

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2.  PEKING MAN 

In the anthology "Kiwi Rock Chicks, Pop Stars & Trailblazers" (2010), Margaret discussed her early singing career.  She was inspired to become a singer, firstly, by her cousin Peter Urlich who was the lead singer of Th' Dudes, and then by her brother Pat (Patrick) becoming a singer in a band. The year after finishing high school, Margaret had travelled around NZ and worked at a variety of jobs including fruit-picking. Whilst she was away, Pat had joined The Corners, which evolved into becoming Peking Man. On her return to Auckland she saw the band playing at The Esplanade in Devonport and was impressed by her brother's singing performance: 

 "I remember thinking how good he was, and that if he could do it, then maybe I could do it, too – after all we had the same DNA. So suddenly the idea of a least getting up on stage didn’t seem so far-fetched after all."

Source: Margaret Urlich, "Margaret Urlich, in her own words", Audioculture (22 Aug 2022), reproduced from "Kiwi Rock Chicks, Pop Stars & Trailblazers", edited by Ian Chapman (HarperCollins, Auckland, 2010) 

Margaret was inspired to sing by cousin Peter being in Th' Dudes & seeing brother Pat perform with his band in 1983

Pat had joined The Corners band as a singer: John Fearon (drums), Neville Hall (sax), and Tim Calder (bass)

4 song demo / Pat Urlich Band

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Image: Audio cassette: unused

The Corners evolved into Peking Man & released 8 tracks on cassette: 'Animal Instincts - Live at Last Laugh' in 1983

It was recorded live at Last Laugh Studios in Auckland's Vulcan Lane by Greg Brice & released on the Studio's label

Audio cassette: unused

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Peking Man also released the EP 'Venetian Blinds' in 1983, & played at Sweetwaters & Paihia festivals in early 1984

The band was joined by Perry Marshall (guitar). The EP's song 'Living in Bits' was written by brother Martin Urlich.

Sweetwaters on the wane - 1983, 1984, 1999

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Co-lead singing & dancing by mid-1984

After Margaret started going along to see Peking Man's rehearsals, her brother Pat invited her to sing back-up vocals on demos. By mid-1984, Margaret had become the group's co-lead singer with Pat and was developing her dancing and singing:

"By mid-1984 there were seven in the band. Pat Urlich’s younger sister Margaret was added to the line-up along with Jay “Bula” Foulkes on percussion.  Margaret was 20 years old when she joined Peking Man and she was participating in a Labour Department “Spats Scheme” developing her dancing and singing talents. Prior to joining she had sung background vocals and operated lights for the group.  When Peking Man were interviewed by Shake! magazine (Jan/ Feb 1986) Margaret recalled, “I saw them about two years ago at the Esplanade and I was really blown away. I decided that I would like to be in the band and six months later they asked me to join.” 

Source: Murray Cammick, "Peking Man", Audioculture (30 March 2015)

After seeing rehearsals, Margaret sang backup on demos, developed dancing skills & became co-lead singer by mid-1984

The band recorded demos: Margaret & Pat (lvocals), John (drums), Neville (sax) Tim (bass), & Lin Nightingale (keyboard)

Demo / Peking Man

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In Oct 1984, 'Scared Of A Sound' b/w ‘Pull It Apart' (written by Peking Man) was released with Margaret & Pat on vocals

Was 1st of 2 singles on John Doe’s Hit Singles label, via WEA Records. Produced by Graeme Myhre at Mandrill Studios.

Peking Man (Musical group) :Peking Man. Scared of a sound. New single available now. Hit singles [logo]. Printed by Ocean in Motion, PO Box 876, Au...

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In 1984, Peking Man with Margaret & Pat as joint-lead vocalists won the Shazam! Battle of The Bands (a TVNZ pop show)

Another musician joined the band in 1984: Jan Foulkes (also known as Jay F-Bula) on percussion

Shazam!

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In June 1985, the single 'Lift Your Head Up High' (lyrics by Margaret & Pat) was released

It was the band's second single released on the Hit Singles label & entered the charts for 14 weeks, peaking at 21

Peking Man (Musical group) :Peking Man. Lift your head up high. Cricketers, Thursday & Friday, 1 & 2 August. Hit singles [logo]. New EP and single ...

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On hearing the song on the car radio, CBS A&R manager Gilbert Egdell alerted Murray Thom who signed Peking Man to CBS

The song was re-recorded & re-mixed & released with a different B-Side: ‘Side By Side'

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At 1985 NZ Music Awards, 'Lift Your Head Up High' was nominated for Best Single & Margaret won Best Female Vocalist

Band was nominated for Group of Year; Pat Urlich for Male Singer; & Graeme Myhre for Best Producer & won Best Engineer

New Zealand music awards 1985. Mockers, Patea Maori Club, Narcs, Netherworld Dancing Toys, D.D. Smash, Jacqui Fitzgerald, Debbie Harwood, Sneaky Fe...

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Songwriting

When Peking Man were interviewed by Shake! magazine (Jan/ Feb 1986), the group commented on their changing approach to writing songs:

“Lately, in the last six months, we’ve started writing individually,” says Perry Marshall. “The output’s increased, the songs are getting better, so I think it’s paying off.” Bassist Tim Calder added, “The final product though is still very much the result of us all sweating together in one room, but the essence of the song is coming from one person.”  A shared, portable 4-track recording system also helped individual band members to write more effectively

Source: Murray Cammick, "Peking Man", Audioculture (30 March 2015)

Image: Room that Echoes

In Nov 1985, the single ‘Room That Echoes’ b/w ‘Vision High’ entered charts for 10 weeks & peaked at No. 1 for 2 weeks

Producer was Bruce Lynch & engineer was Graeme Myhre. It was voted 79th best NZ song of 20th C in 2001 by APRA members.

Room that Echoes

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Dancing on the 'Room That Echoes' video & performing live

In an interview in the teen magazine Shake! (Jan/Feb 1986), Peking Man were asked whether the dancing figure in the ‘Room That Echoes’ video was animated or if it was Margaret. She replied, "Yes, it’s me! What they did was put a filter on the camera and I could see my silhouette on the monitor. The room was all blue and they superimposed my silhouette onto the background. The effects were generated by some machine or other.” (Source: Murray Cammick, 'Peking Man", Audioculture, 30 March 2015)  

Margaret shared her enjoyment of performing live in a later interview held during 1989: "I really want to be known as a live performer,” she says. “If I’m not doing any live work I tend to go a bit loopy. It’s a real release for me, like therapy. I get neurotic if I don’t do it. I start to feel all pent-up and frustrated… I like to entertain, to move a lot and be strong onstage.”  (Source: Gary Steel,  "Margaret Urlich – 1989-style", Witchdoctor, 23 August 2023 - Steel reproduced his 1989 interview) 

Image: Summer Rock 85. Bowl of Brooklands [poster]

On 14 Dec 1985, Peking Man performed at the Summer Rock 85 concert at New Plymouth’s Bowl of Brooklands

Concert also included The Narcs, Dance Exponents, The Netherworld Dancing Toys, Dread Beat and Blood, & Midge Marsden

Summer Rock 85. Bowl of Brooklands [poster]

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Fashion style

When the Shake! magazine "wanted pop stars to wear some fashion in their Jan/ Feb 1986 issue, Margaret Urlich and Dianne Swann obliged, along with Jordan Luck and Andrew Fagan. Margaret and brother Pat Urlich appeared in a slick fashion feature for Shake! magazine." 

Source: Murray Cammick, "Peking Man", Audioculture, 30 March 2015  

Margaret wore her hair short for several years, explaining why during an interview for Rip It Up in October 1992.  She acknowledged that her wearing of shorthair went against the norm of what was expected from female musicians...“ [b]ecause I wanted to be taken seriously. It’s such a male-dominated industry that I didn’t want to be a bimbo. I’m a serious musician first, that’s my job, whether I’m male or female is of no consequence."  Later on, "I got to the point where I thought, ‘Margaret, you’re attractive, why are you trying to make yourself not be attractive?'"

Source: Donna Yuzwalk, "Margaret Urlich talks to Donna Yuzwalk", Audioculture, 15 Jan 2021 (republished from Rip It Up, No.183, Oct 1992)  

Image: Good Luck to You

In May 1986, the single 'Good Luck To You' b/w ‘Coming Event’ released, charted for 11 weeks & peaked at No. 6

Lyrics for 'Good Luck to You' were written by Pat and the music by Margaret and the others in Peking Man

Good Luck to You

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Album 'Peking Man' released, July 1986

Peking Man's self-titled debut album was recorded within six months at Bruce Lynch’s home studio The Boatshed in Bayswater and at the Mandrill Studio in Parnell. It was released in the first week of July 1986 and peaked at No. 6 on the NZ Album Chart and charted for 11 weeks.  

Source: Murray Cammick, "Peking Man", Audioculture, 30 March 2015  

Margaret co-wrote lyrics & music 

Of the album's ten tracks, Margaret was involved with writing the lyrics for four tracks and contributed the music for seven tracks:

  • 'Start at the beginning' - Lyrics (Margaret); Music (Margaret)
  • 'Between the Lines' - Lyrics (Margaret); Music (Margaret & Tim Calder) 
  • 'Running in the Human Race' - Lyrics & Music (Margaret & Neville Hall)
  • 'Lift your Head Up High' - Lyrics: (Margaret & Pat); Music (Margaret & others in the Band)
  • 'Afraid of the Dark' - Lyrics (Neville); Music (Neville & Margaret)
  • 'Breathe a Sigh of Relief' - Lyrics (Pat); Music (Margaret & others in the Band)
  • 'Good Luck to You'- Lyrics (Pat); Music (Margaret & others in the Band)

Source: Wikipedia: "Peking Man (album)"

In July 1986, LP 'Peking Man' released. It charted for 11 weeks, peaking at No 6

"Between The Lines" was final Peking Man single - released late 1986 (lyrics by Margaret & music by her & Tim Calder)

Peking Man

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Image: New Zealand popular singer Margaret Urlich performing

Nov 1986 Aotearoa Music Awards: Margaret won Best Female Vocalist, Pat won Best Male Vocalist, & Peking Man Top Group

Won Best Single ('Room That Echoes'), Album, Album Cover (Phil O'Reilly), Engineer (Myhre) & Producer (Bruce Lynch)

New Zealand popular singer Margaret Urlich performing

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3.  WHEN THE CAT's Away

 In 1986, whilst performing with Peking Man, Margaret also became part of the newly formed all-female group When The Cat's Away. The idea for the group arose during the 1985 NZ Music Awards. The NZ Listener organised a photo-session by John Reynolds with the four award nominees - Margaret, Debbie Harwood, Annie Crummer, and Dianne Swan.  

In an interview held in 2022, Debbie Harwood reminiscenced: 

What sparked everything was an interview I did with The Listener on emerging young women in rock,” Debbie says. “The poor interviewer couldn’t get a word in at all because the energy between us was amazing.” After the interview, the women hugged each other goodbye and didn’t want to let go. “We just wanted to stay with each other.”  Debbie remembers first seeing Margaret perform as a 20-year-old at the Gluepot in Auckland and was awed by her talent and her unique sense of style."   

Source: Aroha Awarau (13 Dec 2022), 'Remembering Margaret',  Woman+

Image: Pop group `When The Cat's Away' performing - Photographed by John Nicholson

In 1986, Margaret also became part of the all-female group When The Cat's Away which was formed as a side-project

Debbie Harwood had suggested the idea to Annie Crummer & Margaret; & later, Dianne Swann & Kim Willoughby joined them

Pop group `When The Cat's Away' performing - Photographed by John Nicholson

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How When The Cat's Away formed

During an earlier interview with Murray Cammick in 2015, Debbie Harwood recalled what took place after the 1995 NZ Music Awards:

"At a dinner at her Devonport home in 1986, Debbie Harwood suggested the idea of performing as a group. "I asked Annie and Margaret first,” said Harwood. “Margaret wanted to bring Dianne along and then I thought an odd number would be better so we threw a few ideas around. Annie and I had worked with Kim and we thought she would be a nice balance with her pop voice, so Kim it was. The five of us were there from the first show." 
 In May 1987 Harwood told Rip It Up writer Chris Bourke, “The Cats is a break from getting our own stuff played, recorded and on the radio. It’s ‘the girls go out to play’ … we’re only there to have fun really – there are no serious messages, just singing our favourites.”  
Debbie Harwood was working at Harlequin Studios, Albert Street, Auckland in the early days of When The Cat’s Away. The studio owner Doug Rogers did a deal with CBS Records for two singles and a live album. 

Source: Murray Cammick, "When The Cat's Away",  Audioculture (published: 7 Jul 2015;  updated: 25 Jul 2022) 

In Sept 1986, When The Cat's Away held their first performance at the Auckland nightclub Wildlife & played 3 nights

Debbie was working at Harlequin Studios & the studio owner Doug Rogers arranged 2 singles & LP deal with CBS Records

When The Cat's Away

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Choosing the group's name & why band became popular

Debbie Harwood explained during a 2019 interview how the group came up with the name 'When The Cat's Away':

"One of the girls said, 'Let's call it The Money Or The Bags'. We were sitting in Annie's lounge. "Someone else said, 'Let's call it Ladies Bring A Plate' and at that point I went, 'Oh let's just sleep on it shall we?' " says Harwood. "So I went home and in the middle of the night I just woke up and went 'When The Cat's Away' – because we were all in bands so we were actually mice in the sense that we were all in original bands and we just wanted to have a break from those bands. I thought the name was perfect."

The reason for the band's popularity, according to Debbie:

"We've all come from incredibly ordinary, tough backgrounds," says Harwood, who grew up in Hawke's Bay. "We're from hard, working-class families. My dad was a bus driver. Margie's dad was a teacher, Annie's family worked in a factory. We all worked in kitchens and waitressing and we were real. There was no one who thought they were special in that group at all. We were just all huddling together. We just had a lot in common.  Plus, we were the sort of people who were prepared to get out on the road and work our guts out for no money."

Debbie's best memories of When The Cat's Away were mostly related to the camaraderie:

"The women were brilliant – really intelligent and hilarious," she says. "If they weren't musicians they would be comedians. We had a ball together. That energy (that we had) we took it on to a stage. The audience were like, 'Wow. This is something we've never seen before'...When performing, the women sometimes wore zany costumes..."There was a little (costume) hire shop in Devonport and we would just go and rummage and say, 'Oh my god, Annie, put this on'."   

Source: Sarah Nealon, "When The Cat's Away singer reflects on band's humble beginnings in new documentary", Stuff.co.nz, 18 April 2019) 

Debbie Harwood suggested the name "When The Cat's Away"

After members of the group discussed possible names, that same night Debbie had woken up with the phrasing on her mind

Debbie Harwood

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4.  Solo artist 

Initial discussion on going solo held by CBS in second-half of 1986 

CBS New Zealand was keen for local acts they had signed to have international success. Gilbert Egdell played Peking Man's single 'Lift Your Head Up High' to Peter Bond (Asia Pacific director of CBS in Sydney) who then wanted Margaret to go solo in Australia. 

"Exactly when Margaret Urlich chose to go solo is unclear. “I can vividly remember having a meeting with Margaret in Murray Thom’s office”, Egdell recalled. “We convinced her to do a solo career – ‘You’ve done an album, it’s done very well, but it’s time to move on.’  She was a little apprehensive about stepping out on her own. In hindsight, maybe she was too young.” ... The meeting with Margaret and CBS took place in the second half of 1986, before Murray Thom and Gilbert Egdell both left the company later that year. Margaret’s departure from Peking Man was not known to the public until June 1987."  

 Source: Murray Cammick, "Peking Man", Audioculture (30 March 2015)   

Meanwhile, Margaret continued to perform with Peking Man. They went on a national tour at the end of 1986 to the North Island, followed by the South Island during January - February 1987. 

Image: National Bank Orientation 87, Sat 28 Feb.

CBS was keen for Margaret to leave Peking Man & go solo in Australia, & discussed with her in second half of 1986

Meanwhile, Margaret joined Peking Man on a national tour at end of 1986 - Feb 1987

National Bank Orientation 87, Sat 28 Feb.

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Margaret continued to tour with Peking Man & When The Cat's Away, early 1987 

In early 1987, Margaret continued to perform with Peking Man & When The Cat's Away

In March 1987, she was at the Gluepot two weekends in a row: 1st with Peking Man & 2d with When The Cat's Away

The Gluepot

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Image: When the Cat's Away

When The Cat's Away released debut single 'Leader of the Pack' on CBS, followed by 'Sanctified' & toured in May-June '87

TVNZ filmed the tour during May to screen as a documentary (See NZ on Screen video: 18:06 min)

When the Cat's Away

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Image: His Majesty's Theatre, Auckland

When The Cat's Away show at His Majesty’s Theatre in May was recorded & self-titled album was released in June 1987

The album's 10 tracks were cover versions of songs. The album peaked at No. 39 & was certified gold in NZ.

His Majesty's Theatre, Auckland

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News about Margaret going solo reported in June 1987

In the May 1987 issue of Rip It Up magazine, an article had appeared about the When The Cat’s Away who were about to embark on their national tour. "The story reassured fans that the singers would return to their solo careers or in Margaret Urlich’s case, head for Sydney with Peking Man."  However, in June 1987, news that Margaret was leaving Peking Man was reported in the 'Rumours' column of the Rip it Up magazine: “Margaret Urlich has left Peking Man to go solo.” (Source: Murray Cammick, Ibid).  

However, Margaret did not depart for Sydney until August 1988. An article released in 2021, gave the following reason: "...[I]n 1987 her family was emotionally grief-stricken at the suicide of their youngest daughter, and it would not be until 1988 when Urlich relocated to Sydney."  (Source: 4The Record, "NZ-Land of the Long White Cloud", 5 May 2021) 

During an interview held in 1992, Margaret had shared: " I write from a very personal angle and I’m not an issues writer. There are quite a few issues I’m concerned with. I’m quite concerned with mental health because I had a sister who committed suicide three years ago. Because I’m personally affected, I’ll talk about it if I think that what I say can maybe change one person’s opinion, but I’m not really a soap-box type of person.”  (Source: Donna Yuzwalk, "Margaret Urlich Talks to Donna Yuzwalk",  Rip It Up, No. 183, October 1992 (republished in Audioculture, 15 Jan 2021)

On 2 Jan 1988, Margaret joined When The Cat's Away for their performance at the Taranaki Music Festival

The Taranaki Music Festival with Herbs, Shona Laing, Ardijah, When the Cats Away, Patea Maori Club, Rhythm Cage, Three Leaning Men ... Bowl of Broo...

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Image: Love You Like I Should

Margaret was backing singer on Dave Dobbyn’s single ‘Love You Like I Should’ released 11 March 1988 from his LP 'Loyal'

The single peaked at No 7. It was nominated for Best Single & Dobbyn for best songwriter at 1988 NZ Music Awards.

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Image: Dave Dobbyn

Margaret also joined Dave Dobbyn on his NZ & Australian tour

Later, he contributed the song ‘Open Up’, which he had written, to her album 'Safety in Numbers'

Dave Dobbyn

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Began working on solo LP 'Safety in Numbers' in Auckland, 1988

Image: Auckland Harbour Bridge from Northcote

In 1988, Margaret began working on debut LP 'Safety in Numbers' in Auckland, after signing 5 year CBS record contract

Her manager was the Auckland-based, former CBS Records A&R manager, Gilbert Egdell

Auckland Harbour Bridge from Northcote

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Visited UK in May 1988

In May 1988, Margaret, Gilbert, and photographer Kerry Brown visited the UK. They met with the English producer Robyn Smith and London CBS staff with the intent of also releasing the LP in the UK. Kerry took photos in London and Brighton intended for the album cover. Also present with Margaret and Gilbert were Kerry's partner (Samoan performing artist Rosanna Raymond) and fashion designer Megan Douglas who became Margaret's stylist on the album's cover. (See photo and article: Murray Cammick, "Margaret Urlich", Audioculture, published 17 Apr 2016, updated 22 Aug 2022)   

Image: Tower Bridge, London (SF0300/37)

In May 1988, Margaret & Gilbert visited the UK & met with producer Robyn Smith & London CBS staff

The intention was to also release the LP in the UK. They were accompanied by photographer Kerry Brown who took photos.

Tower Bridge, London (SF0300/37)

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5.  MARGARET RELOCATED TO SYDNEY, AUG 1988

Image: Sydney Harbour Bridge, 1976

In Aug 1988, Margaret moved to King's Cross in Sydney & resumed working on her album at Studios 301

Robyn Smith was hired as producer. For practical purposes, CBS Australia took over management control from Gilbert.

Sydney Harbour Bridge, 1976

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Visited NZ to receive awards, record & tour with When The Cat's Away

On 1 Sep 1988, Margaret joined Debbie & the rest of When The Cat's Away at the NZ Listener and Television Awards

Group won 'Entertainers of the Year' & 'Documentary of the Year'

Women in New Zealand music, 1980s

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Image: Melting Pot

Debbie suggested the group record Blue Mink's 'Melting Pot' so that radio air play would help market their next tour

CBS agreed to release it if they funded the song & the video themselves (See image: NZ On Screen video: 3:56 min)

Melting Pot

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In Nov 1988, When The Cat's Away released 'Melting Pot' on CBS. It peaked at no 1 & was certified gold in NZ.

When The Cat's Away

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During Dec 1988/Jan 1989, Margaret joined "The Melting Pot" tour throughout NZ with Rikki Morris as special guest

Coca Cola brings you When the Cat's Away; the Melting Pot tour. Hamilton Jan 20; Rotorua Jan 21; Masterton Jan 25; Old Town Hall Wellington Jan 26;...

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1st solo single 'Escaping' released, Sept 1989

During 1989, Margaret continued to work on her first solo album 'Safety in Numbers' in Sydney with producer Robyn Smith. 

The opening song 'Escaping', written by Smith and Barry Blue, was released as a single in NZ in September 1989, prior to the release of the LP in October 1989. The song peaked at No. 1 for three weeks in NZ and remained in the charts for 19 weeks. It was also released in Australia (peaked at No. 17), the UK and Europe.

Margaret had performed 'Escaping' on Australian TV, appearing on the 'Hey Hey It's Saturday' series and the 'Countdown Revolution' series in late 1989. This was followed by future appearances on the same shows and other Australian programmes to promote the release of new singles.

For a list of Australian TV programmes and songs sung by Margaret from 1989 - 2012, see Wikipedia: Margaret Urlich

During 1989, Margaret continued working on her LP. Opening song 'Escaping' released on 18 Sept 1989 & peaked No. 1 (NZ)

After performances on Australian TV shows, peaked No. 17. Was also released in the UK & Europe.

The official NZ music charts.

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1st solo LP 'Safety in Numbers' released, 10 Nov 1989

During the launch of her debut album 'Safety in Numbers' in NZ, Margaret was interviewed by Gary Steel for the November 1989 cover story of the RTR Countdown magazine. She backgrounded the making of the album with producer Robyn Smith for CBS Records, and shared her experience of recording as a solo performer and the selecting of songs, of which she was involved with the writing of three tracks. 

Excerpts from the interview:  

“We recorded the album in two batches, and actually started eighteen months ago,” says Margaret... Halfway through the recording, Margaret upped and moved to Sydney semi permanently... “I was a bit freaked out with the whole thing to start off with, and I just had to calm down and trust [Smith]. Eventually we got some good performances but it took a while! To get live energy on tape is pretty hard to do, and I’ve improved a hundred-fold from beginning to end. Because I’m not a session singer, if the situation’s not right, I just can’t perform.”   Margaret found the whole thing a bit scary. Although she has carried through her career with some determination, she found it “kinda weird doing my own solo thing because I went into it blind. I’ve never had a fixed plan, never sorted myself out, image-wise or whatever.”  
The songs, which are grooving but silky smooth and sophisticated, are one-third self-penned, with some contributions from Smith, and even a song by Margaret’s good buddy Dave Dobbyn. Finding good songs was easy, but finding songs that she felt comfortable singing was another thing. “I have this honesty thing,” she says, “where I have to think ‘this does sound like me’. If it doesn’t feel right I won’t do it, because I don’t want to be caught singing a song that’s not really me. ‘Just joking, it’s not really me guys!’” 
When asked about favourite singers, Margaret responded:  “KD Lang… a white chick singing country with so much soul; Joni Mitchell… a wonderful singer, and so honest.”  

Source: Gary Steel,  "Margaret Urlich – 1989-style", Witchdoctor, 23 August 2023 (Steel reproduced his 1989 interview) 

Solo LP 'Safety in Numbers' was released in NZ on 10 Nov 1989; peaked at No 4 in Dec & went gold (over 7500 sales)

LP's other singles were: 'Only My Heart Calling' (May 1990), 'Number One' (Sept 1990) & 'Guilty People' (Feb 1991)

Margaret Urlich

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Songwriting & Keyboards

''Of the album's 11 tracks, two were written by Margaret ('Give me some credit' and 'The Tide Keeps Rolling In') and one was co-written with Robyn Smith ('Slip on By'). Margaret also played keyboards on the track, 'God Bless The Child'. Backing vocalists included Mark Williams on five tracks.

For an image of the cover of the album 'Safety in Numbers' and listing of songs, see Wikipedia:Safety in Numbers (Margaret Urlich album)

Although Kerry Brown had taken photographs for the cover of the album during the May 1988 UK trip, a re-shoot was done by NZ photographer, Polly Walker.  Margaret's stylist for her hair and make-up was Debbie Watson.

1989 NZ Music Awards: Margaret won Best Female Vocalist, & Album of the Year & Best Album Cover for 'Safety in Numbers'

Also won Single of the Year for 'Escaping'. When The Cat's Away won the 'Group of the Year' award.

Margaret Urlich

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Image: TVNZ

In 1989, Margaret was the presenter for the episode 'Stand by Me' on the TVNZ programme 'Signs of the Times'

Series was about issues in modern world as reflected by popular music. Episode looked at how we see ourselves & others.

TVNZ

Manatū Taonga, the Ministry for Culture and Heritage

Also toured & recorded with other musicians, 1990

Margaret joined When The Cat's Away for the 'Free Ride summer 1988/89 tour, whilst waiting for her solo album 'Safety in Numbers' to be released in Australia (which occurred on 9 March 1990 - four months after it's NZ release). During the summer tour, When The Cat's Away single 'Free Ride' was released in January and peaked at No. 12.  

In an interview published in Shake! magazine (April 1990), Margaret had said:

“I was reticent about doing the tour because the Australian record company didn’t want me to do it. The company felt [negatively] about it – but they don’t understand When The Cat’s Away. The band are just friends and we get together and we have fun – and I am so glad I did that tour because I was getting tense about what I’m doing. It was two weeks of absolute hilarity and support. The support I get from Annie, Debbie, Kim and Dianne means so much to me. People say, ‘Don’t do that, you’re solo now and they’re just stupid girls’. But that’s bullshit. It means much more to me than that.” 

       Source: Murray Cammick, "Margaret Urlich", Audioculture (published 17 Apr 2016, updated 22 Aug 2022) 

Image: Radio with Pictures - Women Songwriters

Margaret joined When The Cat's Away 'Free Ride' summer 1989/90 tour. Single 'Free Ride' released in Jan peaked at No 12.

In 1991, Dianne Swann (photo) left the band & went to London where she formed The Julie Dolphin

Radio with Pictures - Women Songwriters

NZ On Screen

Image: Queen Elizabeth II at Linton Army Camp

When The Cat's Away also performed in front of Queen Elizabeth II at the Holy Trinity Cathedral in Parnell in Feb 1990

Queen Elizabeth II was visiting NZ to attend the Commonwealth Games & sesquicentennial of the Treaty of Waitangi

Queen Elizabeth II at Linton Army Camp

Palmerston North City Library

Image: Australia. Copyright, J.W. Clement Co., Matthews-Northrup Works, Buffalo, N.Y. (inset map) New Zealand.

Margaret's LP 'Safety in Numbers' was released on 9 March 1990 in Australia (4 months after it's NZ release)

It peaked No.5 (Dec) & went triple-platinum (over 210,000 sales) in Australia

Australia. Copyright, J.W. Clement Co., Matthews-Northrup Works, Buffalo, N.Y. (inset map) New Zealand.

Digital Public Library of America

At the NZ Music Awards (March 1990), Margaret won Best Female Vocalist

Also nominated for Single of the Year ('Number One') & International Achievement

Aotearoa Music Awards

Alexander Turnbull Library

Image: (Composite of) Australia Plates 12-14, Volume 1.

In Nov 1990, Margaret was the supporting act for Cher's "Heart of Stone" tour of Australia

Cher's management had wanted Margaret as the support act. 11 shows were held in Adelaide, Sydney & Melbourne (14-28 Nov)

(Composite of) Australia Plates 12-14, Volume 1.

Digital Public Library of America

Backing vocals for cult classic 'The Horses' (released Jan 1991, 10x-platinum)

In 1990, Margaret sang backing vocals for the song 'The Horses' on Daryl Braithwaite's album 'Rise'. The song was released as a single in Australia on 28 January 1991. It debuted at No. 38 on 3 March, peaked at No. 1 on 19 May, and spent 12 weeks in the Top 10 and 23 weeks in the Top 50. 'The Horses' was certified ten-times platinum (over 700,000 sales) in Australia and has become a cult classic.  

When the video for the song was filmed, Margaret chose not to appear in it. The video showed Daryl singing on a beach, with a model, Gillian Bailey, riding a horse and lip-synching to Margaret's voice. In 2016, Margaret had commented to News Corp:

"I was recording an album in London when they did the video. I could have come back to do the video but I was doing my own thing by that stage. A lot of people know it's my singing, but they don't put two and two together that it's not me in the video. In retrospect it was probably a little bit silly because the song was so huge. But at the time I was young and a bit stupid, I did what I thought was right. But it was absolutely no disrespect to Daryl."

Source:  NZ Herald, "New Zealand musician Margaret Urlich dies at 57 after two-year cancer battle" (3 August 2022) 

Image: Moment of Suspension

In 1990, Margaret sang backing vocals for 'The Horses' on Daryl Braithwaite's LP 'Rise'. Single was released Jan 1991.

Single peaked No. 1. (In video, model Gillian Bailey lip-synced Margaret's voice as she was busy recording in London.)

Moment of Suspension

Manatū Taonga, the Ministry for Culture and Heritage

RELATIONSHIPS, EARLY 1990S

During 1990, when Australian band Ratcat was recording their album 'Blind Love', they commented in a Rolling Stone magazine (10/90) interview that their Australian producer and engineer Nick Mainsbridge was engaged to Margaret who did backing vocals on the album.  (Source:  Epods Ratcat Site) In a later interview with Roger Watkins held in 1994 for the Pop History Oral Project, Margaret mentioned her marriage to Nick Mainsbridge from whom she had since separated. (Source: Pop Music Oral History Project: 'Interview with Margaret Ulrich', 20 July 1994)  

Margaret then entered a relationship with George Gorgas. During an interview held in 1999, Margaret commented, "His dad is Argentinian, his mother Brazilian. He speaks Spanish with an Aussie accent...He started out as my sound engineer, we fell in love, and we’ve been together seven years."  (Source: Chris Bourke, 'Margaret Urlich: Second Nature', Audioculture (17 Jan 2023), which is a reprint of the interview in Pacific Wave, August 1999.) 

George was an audio engineer who set up sound systems for stage and television performances. He'd won the Best Live Sound Engineer at the ARIA Music Awards in 1991, at which Margaret had won “Breakthrough Artist – Album'  for 'Safety in Numbers'. In 1995, George and Margaret formed the company Mountain High Management, to provide sound systems for live shows, which also evolved into recording and mixing music for other musicians. (Source: MHM: Mountain High Management Pty Ltd)    

Image: Sydney:

ARIA (25 March 1991): Margaret won 'Breakthrough Artist - Album' for 'Safety in Numbers' & performed at the Awards

Also a nominee for Best Female Artist & Album of the Year

Sydney:

Museum of New Zealand Te Papa Tongarewa

2ND Solo album 'Chameleon Dreams', 1991-1992

Co-wrote songs in Sydney, London & Los Angeles

In March 1991, Margaret commenced working on her second solo album 'Chameleon Dreams' in Sydney. With a budget of about half a million dollars from Sony Records (who had changed its name from CBS Records on 1 January 1991), she also travelled to London and Los Angles to work with songwriters and producers in recording studios. The outcome was Margaret co-writing eight of the album's ten tracks. The album was released in September 1992 by Sony Records. 

 In an interview held after the launch of her album, Margaret discussed her songwriting:

"I believe if artists can write they should", she says. 'There's no sense in collecting a bunch of covers - all you are doing is rehashing what somebody else has done." 'I've been really wanting to develop my songwriting abilities. I've haven't done a lot but I've been writing since I first got into this business in New Zealand eight years ago. Some songs don't work out, some do. I wrote 'Chameleon Dreams' in three batches - some in London, some in Sydney and some in LA over 14 months. I also decided to use more than one producer as I didn't have any one person in mind with whom I wanted to do the whole record." 

Source: "Chameleon shades green", The Canberra Times (Vol. 67, No. 21), 26 Nov 1992, p. 19 

For an image of the cover of the album 'Chameleon Dreams' & list of tracks and songwriters, see Wikipedia: Chameleon Dreams

 In Australia, the singles released from the album charted as follows: In 1992: 'Boy In The Moon’ (No. 21), ‘Human Race’ (No. 55); and in 1993: ‘Burnt Sienna’ (No. 33).  In NZ in 1992: 'Boy In The Moon’ (No. 9), and in 1993: ‘Second Best' (No. 39)  

Image: Australia: Melbourne

6 March 1992: At ARIA Music Awards held in Melbourne, Margaret was a presenter & performer

Australia: Melbourne

Museum of New Zealand Te Papa Tongarewa

Image: Dance sign 'Monte Carlo'

14 March 1992: At World Music Awards in Monte Carlo, Margaret won 'Best Selling NZ Artist of the Year'

She performed 'Soul Train'

Dance sign 'Monte Carlo'

Museum of New Zealand Te Papa Tongarewa

Image: Postcard: Paris

During a side-trip to Paris, Margaret shot a video for forthcoming LP's lead single 'Boy In The Moon'

'Boy In The Moon' was released in July 1992 & peaked No. 21 (Aus) & No. 9 (NZ)

Postcard: Paris

Canterbury Museum

'Chameleon Dreams' LP released Sept 1992 by Sony. Peaked No. 18 (NZ) & No. 5 (Aus) & went platinum. Tour held 1992/93.

Bonus CD (Sydney concert, 10 Sept) & 4 singles released: 'Boy in the Moon', 'Human Race', 'Second Best' & 'Burnt Sienna'

Margaret Urlich Talks to Donna Yuzwalk, 1992

AudioCulture

Image: Noisy Neighbours

"Noisy neighbours" documentary (1992) interviewed dozens of Kiwi musicians in Oz, including Margaret (44:03 mins)

Interviews were held by Richard Wilkins

Noisy Neighbours

NZ On Screen

Image: Australia and the adjacent isles / by John Cary.

14 April 1993: At ARIA Music Awards:. Margaret was a nominee for Best Female Artist for 'Chameleon Dreams'

Plus, Adrian Bolland was an Engineer of the Year nominee for Margaret's 'Boy in the Moon'

Australia and the adjacent isles / by John Cary.

National Library of New Zealand

TourING & recording with other musicians, 1993

Image: Japan. Edited by John Bartholomew, M.C., LL.D. The Geographical Institute Edinburgh. Copyright, John Bartholomew & Son, LTD.

In 1993, Margaret joined tour to Japan with Dale Barlow's 'Wizards of Oz' band, Yothu Yindi band, & Rick Price

Tour organised by Austrade & Export Music Australia

Japan. Edited by John Bartholomew, M.C., LL.D. The Geographical Institute Edinburgh. Copyright, John Bartholomew & Son, LTD.

Digital Public Library of America

Image: Recording; Disc, Compact; [railway photos]

In 1993, Margaret & Rick Price recorded the single 'Where is the love' & released it on 3-track CD on 29 Nov in Aust

Other tracks: Rick's 'If you were my Baby' & Margaret's 'Love Train'. Peaked No. 31 (Dec) & spent 6 weeks on the charts.

Recording; Disc, Compact; [railway photos]

Middlemarch Museum

Image: Best Song Ever Written - I've Got You Under My Skin

In 1993, Margaret & Dale Barlow performed duet 'I’ve Got You Under My Skin' on ABC TV series 'Kate Ceberano & Friends'

Duet included on LP of the TV series which debuted at No. 31 & peaked No. 19 (Feb 1994) in Australia

Best Song Ever Written - I've Got You Under My Skin

Radio New Zealand

Reunited with When The Cat's Away, 1993

Image: Michael Fowler Centre Concerts

In 1993, Margaret joined When The Cat's Away performance at UB40 concert held at Michael Fowler Centre in Wellington

Michael Fowler Centre Concerts

Wellington City Council Archives

Image: Michael Fowler Centre Concerts

Michael Fowler Centre Concerts

Wellington City Council Archives

Image: Michael Fowler Centre Concerts

Michael Fowler Centre Concerts

Wellington City Council Archives

Image: Michael Fowler Centre Concerts

Michael Fowler Centre Concerts

Wellington City Council Archives

Image: Michael Fowler Centre Concerts

Michael Fowler Centre Concerts

Wellington City Council Archives

Image: Michael Fowler Centre Concerts

Michael Fowler Centre Concerts

Wellington City Council Archives

3rd solo album 'Live', 1994

During Margaret's 1992/1993 tour, which followed the release of her 'Chameleon Dreams' album, recordings were made of her live performances. Eleven songs were selected for release on her next solo album called 'Live'. In addition, the twelfth and final track on the album was her studio recording with Rick Price, 'Where is the Love', which had been released on a three-track CD in Australia. On 30 March 1994, Rick and Margaret's CD was nominated for the award of Best Adult Contemporary Album at the ARIA awards held at the State Theatre in Sydney. 

For an image of the cover of Margaret's album 'Live', and list of tracks, see Wikipedia: Live (Margaret Urlich album) 

Image: Australia.

In 1994, Margaret's 3rd solo album 'Live' released with 11 of 12 tracks from her 1992/93 tour for 'Chamelon Dreams' LP

12th track was 'Where Is the Love' duet with Rick. Their CD was Best Adult Contemporary Album nominee, 1994 ARIA awards.

Australia.

Digital Public Library of America

Starred in concert production of 'Jesus Christ Superstar' in NZ 1994

When visiting NZ during 1994, Margaret starred as Mary Magdalene in concert production of 'Jesus Christ Superstar'

Her version. from the cast album, of 'I Don’t Know How to Love Him', reached No. 44 on NZ charts

Jesus Christ Superstar

Alexander Turnbull Library

Three-track EP 'All By Myself' released Nov 1994

On 4 November 1994, Margaret's three-track EP 'All By Myself' was released by Sony. Tracks: 'All By Myself' (written by Eric Carmen), 'Song For The Unknown Child (Lullé)' (written by Robyn Smith) and 'Escaping' (The Blue Mix) (written by Barry Blue and Robyn Smith).  

For an image of the cover of Margaret's EP, see Spotify: All By Myself

Image: Record Player, Soundcraft

On 4 Nov 1994, the EP 'All By Myself' was released on Sony

Single of title track peaked at No. 100 in Australia (Nov 1994) & No. 26 in NZ (March 1995)

Record Player, Soundcraft

Wyndham & Districts Historical Museum

Guest appearances on Australian TV series, 1995

During 1995, Margaret continued to be a guest on Australian TV programmes. For a list of Australian TV programmes and songs sung by Margaret from 1989 - 2012, see Wikipedia: Margaret Urlich.

Image: Television set

During 1995, Margaret continued to make guest appearances on Australian TV including the comedy series 'Full Frontal'

She appeared on Episodes 62 & 64 which included comical duet of the song 'Somethin' Stupid' with Shaun Micallef

Television set

Museum of New Zealand Te Papa Tongarewa

4th solo album 'The Deepest Blue' released, July 1995

In July 1995, Margaret's fourth solo album "The Deepest Blue" was released and peaked in NZ at No. 18 and in Australia at No. 17.

Margaret was involved with co-writing nine of the eleven tracks:

"I think songwriters are lucky", she laughs. "We have a chance to really think about the way we feel - and while that can be a really draining experience, it's also fantastic to tap into that depth of emotion we all have. I put a lot of energy into every song I write. I take a lot of the things that happen to me and I try to present them in an original way". 

Source: Music.Net.NZ: Margaret Urlich 

For an image of the cover of the album 'The Deepest Blue' & list of tracks and songwriters, see Wikipedia: The Deepest Blue

In July 1995, Margaret's 4th solo (& 3rd studio) LP 'The Deepest Blue' was released & peaked No. 18 (NZ) & No. 17 (Aus)

Margaret co-wrote 9 of 11 tracks. LP recorded in Sydney, Auckland & Wellington. NZ & Aust musicians on backing vocals.

Margaret Urlich, in her own words

AudioCulture

Image: Kete Aronui - Ardijah

During 1995/96, 3 singles released from LP with backing vocals on 1st & 3rd singles by Ardijah singer Betty-Anne Morunga

'Gonna Make You Mine' (No. 29 in Aus), 'Every Little Thing' (No. 50 in Aus) & 'All For The Love' (No. 148 in Aus)

Kete Aronui - Ardijah

NZ On Screen

Image: Television PYE Ultimate Vid-Matic

In 1998, Margaret made a special guest performance on the Australian TV series 'The Micallef Program'

She performed a comical duet of Carly Simon's 'You're So Vain' with Shaun Micallef on Series 1, Episode. 6

Television PYE Ultimate Vid-Matic

MOTAT

Image: One Network News - Marc Hunter

In 1998, Margaret & Sharon O'Neill sang Dragon's 'Young Years' at benefit concert after Marc Hunter died on 17 July 1998

The Good Vibrations concert raised funds for Marc's family. (Live LP was released & video placed on YouTube)

One Network News - Marc Hunter

NZ On Screen

6.  Record contract not renewed by Sony, 1998

Sales of the album 'The Deepest Blue' and the three singles did not chart as high as Margaret's previous releases in NZ and Australia. Furthermore, Sony Music was not able to achieve Northern Hemisphere releases or success. Consequently, Margaret's five-year contract with Sony Music was not renewed in 1998. 

When interviewed by Russell Baillie  (NZ Herald 30 June 2000), Margaret had said, “It was good because the relationship had gone a bit sour, a bit tired. In a way, I wanted to get out as well.”  (Source: Murray Cammick, "Margaret Urlich', Audioculture, published 17 Apr 2016, updated 22 Aug 2022) 

MARRIAGE, NEW ALBUM & PARENTHOOD 

During an interview with Chris Bourke for an article which appeared in Pacific Wave (August 1999), Margaret backgrounded what followed:

When Urlich shifted to Australia, she found even more massive success as a dance-pop solo act. Her debut album Safety in Numbers sold “triple-platinum”: that’s 240,000 copies in Australasia. When her follow-up albums – unsurprisingly – didn’t repeat those figures, Urlich was dropped by her record company. That almost suited her; by then, Urlich had married her sound engineer, George Gorga, and settled in Bowral, New South Wales. Ninety minutes from Sydney, with wooden houses and pastoral landscape, it’s a rural town that reminded Urlich of home. “It was a bit of a fresh start, leaving Sony, getting out of the Sydney rat-race – I’ve never been that comfortable with music business schmoozing anyway. I was at a crossroads, deciding what was next: did I want to even pursue music anymore?” 

Margaret was then approached by Murray Thom (former manager of CBS New Zealand who had signed Peking Man) to produce a new album on his Thom Marketing Label. 

"Urlich and Gorga set to work, building a home studio for the recording sessions. Now, the album, Second Nature, has arrived, along with the couple’s first child, daughter Ava."  

Source:  Chris Bourke, "Margaret Urlich: Second Nature", Audioculture (17 Jan 2023), which is a reprint of the interview in Pacific Wave, August 1999. 

In 1998, when Margaret's Sony Music's contract expired, she moved to NSW's Southern Highlands with husband George Gorga

George was a sound engineer whom she'd met in early 1990s. They set up The Shed studio at their home in Bowral.

Margaret Urlich

Wikipedia

NEW ALbum: 'Second Nature' released, MAY 1999

In 1998, Margaret was approached by former CBS Manager Murray Thom (who had signed Peking Man) to produce a new album on his Thom Marketing Label. As Margaret had not been writing new material, Thom suggested that she record "cover versions, or a Linda Ronstadt-style album of jazz standards, or an album re-exploring her own hits  – none of these appealed to Urlich ".  Then Australian record producer Mark Opitz, who was also living in Bowral, "came up with the idea of an album celebrating New Zealand’s unheralded icons: its songwriters. Thom loved the idea."  (Source:  Chris Bourke, Ibid

Songs were Kiwi classics

Margaret selected the Kiwi classics to sing cover versions on the album which was called 'Second Nature'.  As explained by Margaret:

 "This is not about better versions of existing songs as I feel that the original versions, sung and played by the original musicians are the definitive versions, and to compete with that would be futile. I guess that this album is about me having a brilliant time recording some excellent songs and learning a lot more about songwriting in the process."   (Source: Music.Net.NZ: Margaret Urlich)   
 “It’s a tribute album,” says Urlich, “and an education for me in great songwriting. For a small country, New Zealand seems to have produced a lot of good songwriters. I didn’t feel awed, but I felt respect for the writers. Writing a good pop song is really hard, though a great pop song sounds like you could write it in five minutes. In my experience, that’s not the case.”... “It’s unashamedly a nostalgia trip”, says Urlich... But the person Urlich regrets will never hear it is her father, a musician and painter who passed away three years ago. “He was such a big supporter of me and Pat, my brother. Some parents say, get a real job. Our parents always validated what we did, never treated it as a hobby.”  (Source: Chris Bourke,  'Margaret Urlich: Second Nature', Audioculture (17 Jan 2023), which is a reprint of the interview in Pacific Wave, August 1999)   

The album was produced by Eddie Rayner from Split Enz and recorded with musicians from Australia and NZ.  After recording the album in The Shed studio at Margaret and George's home in Bowral, it was mastered at Bernie Grundman Mastering in Hollywood, California, and released in NZ in May 1999. 

For an image of the cover of the album 'Second Nature' & list of tracks, see Wikipedia: Second Nature (Margaret Urlich album)

Expecting first child

During the recording of the album, Margaret and George were expecting their first child, daughter Amy. 

The album's cover "had as its artwork a series of New Zealand landscapes by Auckland painter Justin Boroughs, as well as some childhood photos of Urlich and family. Oh, and a recent shot of her lying prone in long grass: "I was eight months pregnant then, trying to camouflage the bulge. It's very uncomfortable lying like that," she laughs." 

Source: Russell Baillie, "The balancing act",  NZ Herald, 30 June 2000 (Interview with Margaret at her NSW home in Bowral, Southern Highlands) 

In May 1999, Margaret released 5th solo LP 'Second Nature', during which she was expecting her first child, daughter Ava

LP had covers of favourite NZ songs & was produced by Eddie Rayner. Peaked at No 11 on NZ charts & went gold.

Margaret Urlich: Second Nature

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7.  PARENTHOOD, MUSIC TEACHER, Performer, 1999 -

After her album 'Second Nature' was released in May 1999, Margaret and husband George Gorga raised their first child, daughter Ava, who was followed by their son Carlo three years later. Margaret did not release any further records; however, she continued to be interviewed on TV and radio programmes, and co-headlined shows with other artists, as well as performing solo, in Australia and NZ.

In a 2017 interview with The Star, Margaret discussed what she had been doing over the preceding 18 years since her final album 'Second Nature', which included becoming a high school music teacher. Excerpts were reproduced in the NZ Herald in Aug 2022, including a photo of Margaret performing in her music teacher role at Oxley College in Burradoo, NSW:

The article revealed Urlich lived on a rural property in the NSW Southern Highlands, and now made a living as a high school music teacher, "often mentor[ing] young singers before they sit their university entrance exams." And Urlich said she was happy with her new, quieter life. "I quite like being normal. I only ever started singing because I just love it. The whole fame side of it, I didn't think about it that much and it always felt a little bit uncomfortable to me," she told The Star. "I don't need to have a high profile to be happy – in fact, I think the opposite is true for me."

Source:  Nick Bond, "Why Margaret Urlich turned her back on fame after the '90s", NZ Herald, 23 Aug 2022.

Image: Asian Paradise

In 2001, When The Cat's Away reformed (minus Dianne Swann) & released a cover of Sharon O'Neill's 'Asian Paradise'

The song peaked at No. 16 on the charts. Sharon O'Neill joined the national 'Live in Paradise' tour in Sept/Oct 2001.

Asian Paradise

NZ On Screen

Image: Asian Paradise

Live album "Live In Paradise" released by When The Cat's Away in Nov 2001 - peaked No. 7 & went platinum (70,000+ sales)

At the 2001 APRA Silver Scrolls, the group performed Dragon's 'April Sun in Cuba'

Asian Paradise

NZ On Screen

In Feb 2002, When The Cat's Away toured with Sharon O'Neill

Other tour members: Sharon's husband Alan Mansfield & former Split Enz members Eddie Rayner & Noel Crombie

Sharon O'Neill

NZ On Screen

Image: Give It A Girl

Classic Hits Radio series (2007) 'Give it a Girl' profiled 17 Kiwi female musicians including Margaret

Debbie Harwood's compilation expanded on her TV series 'Give It A Whirl' (2002) on Kiwi pop music

Give It A Girl

NZ On Screen

 During an interview first published in 2010, Margaret reflected on the highlights of her career:

"There have been many highlights of my career. Obviously good album sales and industry awards are wonderful. More recently, however, the involvement of my husband George, and my two children in my music, is by far the most rewarding aspect of my career thus far. Seeing the positive effect it has on my family adds a far deeper dimension. The only real low points worth mentioning are all to do with the business side of the music industry. It takes a while to realise that for all the risk, effort, and personal stories we pour into our work, at the end of the day it is a product that may either fail or succeed, in commercial terms. I feel it is important, therefore, to feel proud of my music, irrespective of whether or not it is well received by others. Harder than it sounds, though."    
"I still really enjoy singing and feel that my voice is now better than ever. I’m not desperate for commercial success however, and wouldn’t compromise my family life to achieve it again. My husband and I also record other artists, which I really enjoy. I feel I can bring a lot to the table because I am a recording artist myself, and thus I can empathise in a way that others may not be able to."   

Source: Murray Cammick, "Margaret Urlich, in her own words", Audioculture, 22 August 2022 (reproduced from "Kiwi Rock Chicks, Pop Stars & Trailblazers", edited by Ian Chapman (HarperCollins, Auckland, 2010) 

Image: Sydney Opera House, 1976

During 2012 & 2013 Margaret co-headlined shows with Wendy Matthews in Sydney & NSW, as well as performing solo shows

(Canadian Wendy Mathews had stayed on in Sydney after joining Glenn Shorrock (ex-Little River Band) on tour in 1993)

Sydney Opera House, 1976

Auckland Libraries

Image: Debbie Harwood and Shona Laing 'Show Your Love'

In Feb 2016, Margaret joined Debbie Harwood, Annie Crummer, Shona Laing, Sharon O'Neill & Michele A'Court in concerts

"Under a Starry Sky" (13 Feb) at Black Barn in Hawkes Bay, & "Hear Them Roar" (27 Feb) at Auckland Zoo

Debbie Harwood and Shona Laing 'Show Your Love'

Radio New Zealand

Image: The Great New Zealand Album: Peking Man

RNZ (4 Oct 2016): Margaret talks about Peking Man (32:24 min)

The Great New Zealand Album: Peking Man

Radio New Zealand

Image: Throwback Thursday: The gems of New Zealand pop music

On 15 June 2017, ‘Melting Pot’ & ‘Escaping’ were two of the 10 songs chosen as gems of NZ pop music

See The Spinoff article (15 June 2017) where Chelsea Jade and Sam Brooks had chosen 10 gems in 'Throwback Thursday'

Throwback Thursday: The gems of New Zealand pop music

The Spinoff

In 2019 documentary series ‘Anthems: New Zealand's Iconic Hits’, interviewees included members of When The Cat's Away

Margaret had also continued to perform with Debbie Harwood and Annie Crummer at corporate and private gigs in NZ

Anthems: New Zealand's Iconic Hits

NZ On Screen

In December 2019, one of Margaret's last performances was held in Sydney for a Christmas festive event at Parramatta Park. See YouTube Video: "The Christmas Song - Margaret Urlich (Carols in the Crescent 2019)".  She was scheduled to appear with Daryl Braithwaite and other singers at the FireAid2020 fundraising concert at the Bong Bong Racecourse in Bowral on 24 January 2020, but withdrew at the last moment. (Source:  Glenn A Baker, "Margaret Urlich, a rare talent who lit up any room", The Sydney Morning Herald, 23 August, 2022)  

Image: Sydney Harbour, 1976

In Dec 2019, Margaret sang 'The Christmas Song' at Carols in The Crescent, a festive event at Sydney’s Parramatta Park

Sydney Harbour, 1976

Auckland Libraries

8. NZ Music Hall of Fame, 2021

In December 2021, the five members of When The Cat's Away were inducted into the New Zealand Music Hall of Fame at the Aotearoa Music Awards. However, Margaret's husband George advised the organisers that Margaret was not able to attend for health reasons. The induction video chronicling Margaret's singing career that was shown during the ceremony can be viewed at: NZ Music Hall of Fame: Inductees: Margaret Urlich 

On 17 Dec 2021, When The Cat's Away was inducted into the New Zealand Music Hall of Fame

Inductees: Annie Crummer, Debbie Harwood, Dianne Swann, Kim Willoughby & Margaret (not able to attend as was unwell)

L.A.B and TEEKS big winners at Aotearoa Music Awards

Radio New Zealand

Music Awards, 1985 - 2000

 Margaret was a nominee for and winner of several awards in NZ and Australia, and also won an award at the World Music Awards held in Monte Carlo:

New Zealand Music Awards: 

Awards won by Margaret Urlich with Peking Man, When The Cat's Away and as a solo singer:

  • Female Vocalist of the Year: Won four times - 1985, 1986, 1989 and 1990
  • Album of the Year: Won 1986 ('Peking Man' with Peking Man); Won 1989 ('Safety in Numbers')
  • Single of the Year: Nominated 1985 ('Lift Your Head Up High' with Peking Man); Won 1986 ('Room that Echoes' with Peking Man); Won 1989 ('Escaping'); Nominated 1990 ('Number One') 
  • International Achievement: Nominated 1990
  • Best Group: Peking Man (Nominated 1985 & Won 1986); When The Cat's Away (Won 1989)
  • Album Cover: Won 1986 ('Peking Man': Phil O'Reilly); Won 1989 ('Safety in Numbers': Polly Walker/Debbie Watson); Nominated 2000 ('Second Nature': Kimberley Renwick)  
  • Engineer: Won 1985 (Graeme Myhre for 'Lift Your Head Up High' by Peking Man); Won 1986 (Graeme Myhre for 'Peking Man')  
  • Producer: Nominated 1985 (Graeme Myhre for 'Lift Your Head Up High' by Peking Man); Won 1986 (Bruce Lynch for 'Peking Man' by Peking Man); Nominated 1989 (Ross McDermott/Annie Crummer for 'Melting Pot' by When The Cat's Away)   

Australia's ARIA Music Awards: 

  • Breakthrough Artist - Album: Won 1991 ('Safety in Numbers').
  • Best Female Artist:  Nominated three times - 1991 ('Safety in Numbers'), 1993 ('Chameleon Dreams'), and 1994 ('Burnt Sienna').
  • Album of the Year: Nominated 1991 ('Safety in Numbers')
  • Best Adult Contemporary Album: Nominated 1994 ('Where is the Love' with Rick Price)

World Music Awards in Monte Carlo:  

  • Best Selling NZ Artist of the Year: Won 1992

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Margaret won NZ Music Award 'Female Vocalist of the Year' four times (1985, 1986, 1989 & 1990) with Peking Man & solo

Also a nominee & winner of other NZ & ARIA awards; & won 1992 World Music Award for Best Selling NZ Artist of the Year

New Zealand Music Awards

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9.  Newsmedia reported Margaret passed away on      22 August 2022

News media, including the NZHerald (23 August 2022), shared the following statement from Margaret's family that she had passed away on 22 August 2022:

"It is with incredible sadness that we inform you that Margaret Urlich passed away peacefully on August 22 2022 at her home in the Southern Highlands of NSW, surrounded by her family after a courageous two-and-a-half-year battle with cancer," a family statement said.

 Beehive media release by the Hon Carmel Sepuloni on 23 August 2022 acknowledged the passing of Margaret: 

 "It is with great sadness that I heard of Margaret Urlich’s passing yesterday,” Minister for Arts, Culture and Heritage Carmel Sepuloni said. “Yesterday we lost a star of Aotearoa music. Margaret was one of New Zealand’s most successful recording artists, selling over 400,000 albums over her career, and is someone I grew up listening to,” Carmel Sepuloni said. “I’m pleased that her successful career was recognised in [2021] when she was inducted into the NZ Music Hall of Fame. “The gap Margaret leaves is momentous. She dedicated her life to recording music, collaborating with others, and producing tunes that we will long listen to. My thoughts are with all those who knew or worked with Margaret and the New Zealand music industry, but most of all my thoughts are with those who were closest with Margaret – her whānau and friends. Her legacy will live on,” Carmel Sepuloni said.

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On 22 August 2022, Margaret passed away at the age of 57 years at her home in NSW

A family statement said she'd passed away peacefully "after a courageous two-and-a-half year battle with cancer"

New Zealand singer Margaret Urlich dies

Radio New Zealand

 Two former members of When The Cat's Away and cousin Peter Urlich gave the following tributes to Margaret: 

"Margaret was a true and rare talent. She lit up any room, and if you were on stage with her you had to lift your game. She was a uniquely gifted person..."  (Dianne Swann) 
Margaret's got that magic. It’s just in her – nothing learned.  She got kicked out of the school choir because she was so unique. People don't know that she can drum, she can play the piano. She's just the consummate musician, really, and dance. And she is adorable.”  (Debbie Harwood)
“She was the most beautiful woman, on the inside and out. An amazing natural performer, she loved to dance. She was blessed with a great voice. She sang so effortlessly and with such soul and sass, she had her own space and sound, instantly recognisable. She had a level of sophistication that marked her out. Marg was super stylish, she oozed confidence but underneath, she was a female who had to overcome her shyness to try to make it in a male-dominated industry. And she did. When you look at her body of work from Peking Man to Escaping to Boy in the Moon, she absolutely had it all. “I was a total fan and I’m very proud of her.” (Peter Urlich)

Source: David Skipworth,  "Kiwi singer Margaret Urlich, 57, dies after living with cancer for over two years",  Stuff.co.nz. (23 Aug 2022)  

Image: Margaret Urlich dies aged 57

RNZ's Morning Report and other news media in NZ, Australia & UK reported the news

Morning Report (23 Aug 2022): Dianne Swann spoke of her association with Margaret since When The Cat's Away (7:10 min)

Margaret Urlich dies aged 57

Radio New Zealand

TV news bulletins & radio programmes (including 95bFM) held tributes to Margaret

Wednesday Morning Glory with Tuva'a Clifton

95bFM

In Jan 2023, RNZ listed stories that dominated the headlines in 2022, which included the news about Margaret

The year in news: Stories that dominated the headlines in 2022

Radio New Zealand

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This DigitalNZ Story was compiled in May 2023